Listen now | Ground-Up Governance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a paid subscriber. TRANSCRIPT Matt Voiceover Welcome back to Sound-Up Governance. Back in episode three, I introduced you to my good friend Lisa Oldridge, who suggested this time that I introduce her as a strategy and governance and whatever seems interesting advisor, which pretty much sums it up. Her firm is called Fulcrum Advisors. Lisa has a depth of knowledge and expertise in strategy, operations, investing, research, startups, et cetera, et cetera, and it's a really good thing that instead of being an arrogant jerk about how great she is, instead, she's got this super fun and adventurous rogue spirit. I wanted to reconnect with Lisa because a lot has changed in my own perspectives about corporate governance over the past year or so since we recorded episode three, I just needed a valued ally's perspective to make sure I haven't gone too far off the beaten path. So I started by asking Lisa for some guidance on how not to mess up too badly when giving advice on governance stuff.